Vigilante: "a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate." That is exactly what Kyle was doing, "guarding" a used car dealership, "patrolling" the area, walking blocks away, trying to "undertake law enforcement ".

Kyle intentionally walked around a fucking riot, armed with a rifle. If that's not "seeking conflict", what exactly is it? You keep jumping to the actual shooting incident that has zero to do with your claim, that Kyle was no "seeking conflict". Long before the incident, he was wandering around with an AR15 during an active riot. Who the fuck would do something like that?

Holy crap, there's a lot to unpack right there. None of what you said actually upholds your statement the fatboy Kyle "didn't seek conflict". I never took any stand on the shooting. A jury found the crybaby not guilty. I don't blame everything on Kyle & never said I did, you assumed that. You continue to call the people that were actively rioting "vigilantes". They were not, they weren't even protesters, they were lawless rioters. Kyle was, by definition, was a vigilante that night.

Personally I don't believe in open carry unless your headed into the woods to cull some deer or hunt something else. But your fucking gun away, it makes you look like a fool trying to be a bad ass. If someone takes a rifle & starts walking around a riot, "patrolling", they are actively seeking conflict. You've made a lot of assumptions for god knows what reason. Hoplophobia? Oh please, being against the stupidity of open carry hardly makes that true. I enjoy going to the range & am actually a decent shot. Endorsing the actions of rioters? Pease quote me where I did that. Go ahead & keep it coming, your silly assumptions, your name calling, your expanding on the debate to be more that what it originally was. Rittenhouse carried a firearm, walking around a riot in progress, obviously seeking conflict. He could very well have stayed doing what he claimed he was there for: guarding the dealership.

The truth here is that someone here believes that walking around a riot with a AR15 is "not seeking conflict" has established themselves as "dumb as a rock ". Now that I've read about fat boy crybaby Kyle & "learned the facts" my opinion of him has got even worse. Thanks for the link. So his mom didn't drive him. He drove himself to a riot with a rifle but was not "seeking conflict". Who the fuck endorsed rioters? Who the fuck calls rioters vigilantes? How did you establish that I was "no Boy Scout"? Because I drop F bombs? Fucking hilarious. Please keep it up, it's mildly entertaining.

If he was seriously not seeking conflict, he would not have been open carrying a firearm. A fucking rifle. Walking around looking to help people, with a rifle. Personally if I was walking around a neighborhood where there were riots happening with a med kit, I would not open carry a firearm. It's obvious to me that yes, he was seeking conflict. He got bored & "went on patrol" when according to him, he was there to protect the dealership.

It is amazing that people want to defend this little whiny ass vigilante shit kid who did his damndest to put himself in conflict.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up, he drove himself to Kenosha. However, after wasting my morning reading about the incident to "get my facts straight" I find that the claim that he didn't "seek conflict" is disingenuous. I suppose he left the car dealership to go "on patrol" just to seek folks in need of medical attention, amiright?

Sure he didn't "seek conflict" when his mom dropped him off at a riot with a rifle & he directly walked right into conflict.

That was worth watching.

Thanks!

Phil "nation of whiners" Gramm would take the lead of the assholes who "Enabled Clinton". That asshole was pushing to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act for years.

Bush W did more than nothing. Bush signed the American Dream Downpayment Act and proposed other legislation, including the Zero-Downpayment Initiative, a Single Family Affordable Housing Tax Credit, and more funding for the Self-Help Homeownership Opportunity Program (SHOP). The speech I remember is when he said he wanted "90% home ownership by 2021". He was not only driving the boat, he was driving it like a drunk.

Dang, so I guess the money they found in FexEX/UPS packages really was from criminals. Or from people that didn't know any better? There are a whole lot of ways to send money now days but I think they all leave a paper trail. Matt Gaetz knows that now. What the law enforcement guy I know said was if you gotta send cash or something else not legal, USPS is the way to do it because they need a warrant to open it. Personally I have no idea.

This has gone on for quite a long time. Over 15 years ago a law enforcement guy I know led a team at LAX. He claimed that they "just knew" who to nab & search by looking at them. Literally standing in the path of the deplaning people & eyeballing them, detaining them, searching & seizing their cash. He claimed that they could get the money back if they could prove they got it legally. At the time I knew he was full of shit.

They also went into UPS & FexEX & watched the boxes go by on the conveyer & grabbed the "suspicious" packages. Once they had a nice stack, they would carefully open then, taking the money & if drugs were found setting up a sting delivery. The undercover cop doing the delivery would peek inside as they obtained a signature looking for probable cause & almost always finding it somehow.

He claimed that after a year or two (I don't remember the details) they had seized 5 million dollars.

It's not like the Ford family came to this decision in a vacuum. The labor movement had been going on for decades & was scaring the shit out of the business owners.

Rhetorical question? If not, then I got news for you. It might never go away completely. That being said, it gets easier all the time. For me, the cravings came in waves. That's after the first couple weeks. For most people, those first days there are little to no "waves", it's constant.

Over time they the cravings should become less intense & less frequent. Stay the fuck away from smoking people. Good luck, it's worth the pain.

Keep in mind, generally/rarely are key words in my statement. And yes, drugs/alcohol drives most crime. The current opioid crisis has not had a massive uptick in crime. One reason is the stuff is cheap, plentiful, & easy to find. Way back when there was a big heroin bust in NYC, drying up a lot of the available dope on the street. Prices went up followed by a mini crime wave.

Crimes of passion? Of course. But then a lot of "crimes of passion" have a few beverages preceding them. Police using drones will not likely help much with that kind of crime.

There will always be people that appear to rather steal than work.

Crime is caused by people needing money for drugs. That & doing stupid shit while under the influence, usually alcohol.

People who get clean rarely commit crimes. People that stop drinking generally stop doing stupid shit.

Holy crap that's interesting. Watched the trailer & now I have to find the time to watch the movie, thanks.